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Entrevista a James Horner sobre la música de "Aliens: el regreso"


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El apartado de "Documentales" de El Despotricador Cinéfilo pretende hacer una recopilación de aquellos documentales que sean muy completos acerca de la realización de películas míticas y famosas. Descubriendo en ellos algunas de las anécdotas y curiosidades más jugosas de nuestras películas favoritas, así como de los cineastas que trabajaron en ellas.

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25/11/2017 Gary Kuo
As a violinist, I had the honor and privilege of playing on The Pelican Brief, Jumanji, and Clear and Present Danger. James was an inspiration and very generous as an individual. As a composer, I try to impart the importance of music and its creation to my film students. It's my hope that their future projects will be free of issues such as those James describes above.

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20/11/2017 Omi Flash
Did an unreal job James.

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18/11/2017 Star Israel
Thank god it wasn’t his , Gerry goldsmith s score couldn’t have been beaten

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13/11/2017 Fifth Continent
Arch plagiarist. Who is he going to steal from next?

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11/09/2017 Johny40Se7en
Even if the film wasn't finished when he started composing, it's so amazing how well the soundtrack went so well with the whole film, I love it, absolute classic of a film and the soundtrack too.

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10/09/2017 Ali Al-Isa
Now I know what do'es "R.I.P." mean!

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01/09/2017 Christian Luongo
Brilliant man an absolute genius. I was devastated over his loss

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12/08/2017 Raymond Rivera
Big James Cameron fan but gotta side with James Horner on this one. Horner was not given enough time but still he did his best. Great score and great movie.

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28/07/2017 DIGITALSCREAMS
Scoring Aliens must have been absolute total fucking hell

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11/05/2017 alexander dela cruz
I can tell gail is sneering while telling the story,what a bitch. She's suppose to help not ruin the project.

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09/05/2017 alexander dela cruz
Its so sad he died before his time.

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13/11/2017 Fifth Continent
Possibly a suicide, if rumours are to be believed.
21/04/2017 Brian Sherick
RIP......

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17/04/2017 Chris Turton
Not bad for a human.

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30/03/2017 Sean L
One of the greats. Very sorry at his loss.

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12/03/2017 Jay Khwaja
James Horner, we will miss you Dearly.

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08/01/2017 Brano Horak
one the best movie score ever

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13/11/2017 Fifth Continent
Yea, sure. Pigs might fly.
18/12/2016 Drone Age
I doubt Gale Anne Hurd has mellowed with age. I'd say she's still the cranky stupid bitch she was back then.

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09/05/2017 alexander dela cruz
Mr J . There are ppl like her,im afraid.
You sometimes wonder how did she get that post in the first place.
14/11/2017 Drone Age
+alexander dela cruz imagine if she had got her way and sacked him! What kind of watered down crappy version would we have gotten for the movies iconic climactic scene.
16/11/2016 nookie077
Thankyou for the music J.H.

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23/10/2016 TIOMKIN1
Aliens is my favorite James Horner Score.

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06/10/2016 Dean P. Wells
Best film score to an ending I've ever heard! When-ever Aliens is on TV and I catch it half way through, I still watch it to see the ending scene, even though I have it on DVD anyway. Amazing composer! Very sad loss. R.I.P

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21/09/2016 rip ast
La música de James Horner fue la única que me hizo llorar en cuatro de sus películas: Aliens, Braveheart, Titanic y Zorro.
A la de Alien le tengo un especial cariño, pues cuuando vi por primera vez esa película en 1990 la música se grabó en mi mente y no me la pude sacar, y posteriormente las veces que vi esa película tarareaba la música en mi cabeza.

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06/03/2016 MURAT
RİP James Horner.Great composer.

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10/02/2016 J Hart
This sheds some light on why he used so much of his excellent 1981 WOLFEN score for ALIENS.

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13/11/2017 Fifth Continent
Why reuse it at all. Can't Horner arrive at something new?
07/12/2015 MintSauce !
Movies wont be the same without him.

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13/11/2017 Fifth Continent
Actually, they will be better.
07/10/2015 Super Rabbit
I see why Horner didn't work with JC till Titanic now.

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25/07/2015 oceantracks
Gail Ann H. had no clue. Horner was an amazing talent and a great guy. Spoke with him once on the phone and he was a true gentleman.

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15/07/2015 Christoffer Boman
Oh my word... RIP

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14/07/2015 Cryogenics12
James Horner was part of what made Aliens what it is. RIP

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13/07/2015 Jerome A.
If Aliens was just 80% of what James Horner wanted to do, then I can just imagine what it would be like if he was able to have more time. It is a great soundtrack.

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12/07/2015 Dan Reese
Cameron wasn't custom to the way the English peoples habits like tea breaks in the middle of filming a scene and flipped out . As any director time is money , and He is a hard guy to work for . Horner did a good job with the time He had .My favorite is Ripley's Rescue on the soundtrack . RIP --------->  your music will be missed .

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13/11/2017 Fifth Continent
I would work on your English language skills if I were you.
08/07/2015 billpiano1
"Life's too short..." Yes indeed.

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06/07/2015 Devonian
Jim Horners work is amazing. RIP. He worked on the best films, I love Aliens.

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02/07/2015 Isabel Beckerman
I will always treasure in my heart your incredible and triumphant scores from the movie Braveheart, your masterpieces of all times. The cinema industry has lost a truly great composer and he's gone from us at the youthful age of 61. Future plans of making more soundtracks were in the works before his unexpected passing. But his accomplished collections will always be immortalized for many years to come. I hope the finale from Braveheart was chosen and played as a eulogy at his funeral last month. Couldn't think of a loving and memorable sendoff than this immortal score. RIP James and many thanks for giving so much of your time and efforts in creating the music of Titanic Field of Dreams Legends of the Fall and of course Braveheart.

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27/06/2015 Mohan K
This is my favorite music score. RIP James Horner.

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27/06/2015 PlanetStorm
5:22  - I am sure in his head he said something a bit more...florid.

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27/06/2015 Watch Ryder
I know, I'll never forget that when he said it! Great dynamic energy and verve. So glad he managed to pull it off!

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26/06/2015 shubus
After he died I had to come watch this again and relive his pain and ultimate triumph in completing the score for Aliens.  RIP James, one of Hollywood's best,

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25/06/2015 Evan B. Peters
I think the desperation of the production of the soundtrack is what inevitably lead to the incredible masterpiece of intensity that is James Horner's score.

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25/06/2015 Marc Parella
A consummate professional who seems to have taken a page out of the famous Leonard Bernstein axiom about doing something great: "To achieve great things, two things are needed; a plan, and not quite enough time."

There is something about being rushed that pushes you to do great things.

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25/06/2015 Maximus Argentus
Apparently James Cameron didn't think Aliens soundtrack was good enough and they parted ways after it released? WTF? Did I hear that right? Aliens soundtrack is AMAZING. RIP Horner.

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13/07/2015 Jerome A.
+Maximus Argentus If so then how come Horner did Avatar and Titanic for him.
23/07/2015 RexDartEskimoSpy
+Maximus Argentus Did you watch the entire video? The final two minutes was all about how Horner and Cameron repaired their relationship when Cameron was making Titanic. They mended all their fences and maintained a great working relationship from that point forward.
23/07/2015 Maximus Argentus
Yes I did. My point was he thought Aliens soundtrack was bad. Aliens is one of the best if not the best sci fi film ever made, and a lot of that is due to the atmospheric soundtrack. Mind boggling for Cameron to say he didn't like it.
23/07/2015 RexDartEskimoSpy
There was no issue of Cameron being disappointed with how the score turned out.  The issue was time and how long Horner needed to deliver a completed score.  Horner's own words were that he could only deliver about 80% of what Cameron and Hurd were asking because of his time constraints.  When the movie was finally finished, they chose to part ways (until Titanic, that is) because neither felt he could work well with the other.
24/06/2015 videowilliams
"Gail's response was icy cold. She said 'Well, we'll just get somebody who can' and I said 'Please do.'" (5:19) He was down in the trenches all right. Total respect to this man. RIP Jim Horner. You will be missed.

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28/06/2015 sgtpepper1138
+videowilliams Totally, it's just shocking how they couldn't understand how the scenes have to be locked to be able to write music for it.
30/05/2016 morymb
I'd be tempted to tell them to cut the picture to the score once I got a ballpark rhythm lol. I think Spielberg did that with William's score for E.T. But..Horner was still "up and coming" so...what an accomplishment!
28/06/2017 Mike K
videowilliams absolutely love him standing his ground
24/06/2015 nancy brandstetter
The man is gone but his music lives on.

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24/06/2015 kittybookitty
RIP James Horner

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23/06/2015 adamzanzie
9:12 "You mellow with age. I think Jim's mellowed, and I've certainly mellowed, and that all helps the process."

God, this made me fucking cry. Rest in peace, one of the greatest composers of all time. Movies will never be the same.

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23/06/2015 SarahEstornell
the aliens soundtrack has always been so close to my heart, so saddened by his passing. may he rest in peace.

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23/06/2015 Dizzy Blu
RIP james, this death I really didnt expect especiallly from someone who gave a voice to my childhood, and was perfectly healthy, from the land before time to Titanic and Aliens, to my father for Apollo 13. Of course I never knew him personally, but I believe I speak for all of us when I  say : a tremendous loss is felt when thinking about the fact that we will never hear a James horner score again.

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22/08/2017 SarahEstornell
Uuughhhh so true... So sad to know this as a fact :(
13/11/2017 Fifth Continent
If James was such a loss, why then is it that the public concert was cancelled due to lack of interest, not only from his 'supporters', but also his 'colleagues'.
23/06/2015 TarynBarkerDemonHunter
RIP James Horner, your work is a testament to your genius.

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13/11/2017 Fifth Continent
Obviously, you are putting us on.
23/06/2015 Brano Horak
one of the best top movie soundtrack ever made

Thank you James Horner.

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23/06/2015 robertbdesmond
Great interview about self imposed time restrictions in the film industry.  Rest in peace James Horner.

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23/06/2015 yanndick
You were part of the great ones who made me love film music.
Merci beaucoup, Monsieur Horner !
RIP

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23/06/2015 TheRubberStudiosASMR
Amazing how close they got to the final release of the film.

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23/06/2015 jadewraith
RIP James :(

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23/06/2015 dausas
A great loss to the world of music. You will be missed!

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13/11/2017 Fifth Continent
A great loss to the world of plagerists.
23/06/2015 KENe W.L.
I feel like I just lost a very close friend... very sad to see you go James.. RIP 6-22-15

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23/06/2015 Daniel Kutz
A master composer and artist. RIP James Horner.

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23/06/2015 stevenesq
No ALIENS without the perfect score.RIP.

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23/06/2015 DrDivine
RIP James Horner

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23/06/2015 soadfan33
RIP James

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27/05/2015 theohaigy
James Cameron and Gale Anne Hurd have always been notoriously difficult to work for, constantly moving the goalposts, changing their minds, with little consideration for people around them. Although there were problems with the trans-Atlantic staff, those two must have been a nightmare to please.

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30/03/2015 CrossCynical
Thanks for sharing this, being a fan of the series I never expected so many issues for James Horner while composing the score. In the end, I think he did a phenomenal job, not just 'good enough' but fitting the movie perfectly. I can really appreciate the music more now knowing what he went through to get it completed.

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15/01/2015 J S R Lasher
Someone should post a facehugger to little Jamie Horner to thank him for another copycat score.

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04/11/2014 Rat Sallad
Amazing what James Horner was able to do in such short time and under such preassure - I might imagine things, but I bet all that frustration and anger he must have felt went into the music. If you think about it, its like a grandios mental outburst. 

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12/10/2014 John Miller
"Aliens" is easily Horner's best film score! Regardless of whether the themes he used were re-used from "Trek II" or wherever, I don't care. The finished score is truly impressive, especially considering how little time Horner had to write the music. Personally, Horner hasn't done much for me at all since then. So, that especially makes "Aliens" a great score to me. Plus, that "Bishop's Countdown" cue ending is famous in film music! You heard it in so many trailers for a decade after the score was released. Even under the pressure, Horner and the London Symphony Orchestra do an excellent job in the performance!

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13/11/2017 Fifth Continent
Do they now? You could have fooled me.
14/09/2014 Dominic Deeptone
he's talking so "bad" over the theme.... i love the aliens II theme ! ithe filmmusic chates me directly... perfectly.

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19/05/2014 MrJingles75
A very honest reflection on what must have been a complete nightmare for Horner. At least Cameron made it up to him on later films. Gale Anne Hurd sounds like the low budget / film school producer from hell.

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09/05/2014 HD Film Tributes
The opening and closing themes of "Aliens" aren't even original. They're adapted from Aram Khachaturian's "Gayne Ballet Suite" & Krzysztof Penderecki's "The Awakening of Jacob."
James Horner is an outstanding composer but "Aliens" was not one of his better scores and I can't believe it was nominated for an academy award. 

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10/11/2014 Daywalker682
+marsbars4 This is not an "inspiration". Listen to both pieces and you'll find identical parts in it, which are here the main theme in Horners work. I showed this to some composers, who are working in that buisness and they were astonished by that unscrupulousness.
22/06/2015 Dizzy Blu
Most hollywood film scores are rip offs.
J williams ripped off star wars from kings row and debussey
Goldsmith did it with wagner
Hell, zimmer rips HIMSELF off.

Point is can you rip off without too many ppl noticing and ensuring it fits well with the movie
23/06/2015 KENe W.L.
+CobaltTungsten Well said friend..
23/06/2015 Dizzy Blu
RIP james horner
13/11/2017 Fifth Continent
Which reminds me of the fact that Nino Rota's estate successfully sued Horner for copyright infringement, winning their case.
01/03/2014 UFOSPACE1999
who is this girl bitching and complaining. I hear Jerry Goldsmith's music from Alien in here. Cameron is a asshole. 

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16/12/2013 TruthSurge
Cameron apparently loved to stress his co-workers by spending way too long on stuff.  Same with Abyss.  Nearly killed Harris doing that movie.

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30/11/2013 opteryx1
Watch the movie Wolfen. It came out a few years before Aliens and also scored by Horner. He basically took his score from Wolfen and changed it slightly for Aliens.

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06/05/2014 starlodear
But it's still his own work and why not re-use a great motif? It's such a waste. Also, Horner has made a huge variety of different styles, see "Titanic" vs "Commando" vs "Sneakers" vs "Spitfire Grill".
25/11/2013 Ashok Kumar
you are the best.

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11/11/2013 Jim Mower
Gale Anne Hurd is pretty unforgiving about it. Considering she's the damn producer I think she has to shoulder a good deal of responsibility for causing everyone else a bit of a nightmare. Also the way Jim Cameron worked in those days...

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27/10/2013 jslasher1
And about every 20th-century composer on the planet.

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27/10/2013 jslasher1
Oh, really?

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26/10/2013 Arthur Hakhverdian
"Well, we'll get someone who can." A-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! ..... A-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! Clueless numbskull from film school!

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17/10/2013 ElMagico2006
But he didn't write a lot of it, he just borrowed it from his work on Star Trek II.

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11/08/2013 edbingey
With old school film composers they were all schooled in the history of orchestral music, the great composers, and they brought some of that to the masses. Nowadays that's slipping away - people like Zimmer offer people what they already know like a cheap sugar rush. It's effective but deeply depressing.

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06/07/2013 Leif Bradshaw
Thank you!! Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Hans Zimmer. I love his best known scores up until 2001, but since then, well you've summed it all up right there. Zimmer's style of brooding ambience and simplistic delivery has grown tiresome. Horner is, in my opinon, a smarter composer in that he uses music to add to films and manages to stay somewhat fresh, though he does have his own bad habit of copying and pasting his own themes into his newer scores when he has less time to think about them.

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10/04/2013 disembodiedspirits
Hans Zimmer has done some OK stuff himself, but more than anything he's responsible for the whole new wave of "assembly line composing" in Hollywood, where 10-20 guys piece together a soundcarpet out of a million samples and recordings. They work fast and to the untrained ear it sounds OK. You have it in practically every blockbuster film now. It may be OK background noise to car chases, but composing? Not on your life.

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13/11/2017 Fifth Continent
Good comment. Zimmer can't even read music. So, there you are.
20/11/2017 89 tw
disembodiedspirits , wow well said
23/03/2013 Xendrius
The Aliens 2 soundtrack in the movie were perfect.

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11/03/2013 44excalibur
Hey, Cameron is a perfectionist and only wants the best for his films. Look at the documentaries for both Alien and Aliens and you'll see that Jerry Goldsmith had similar issues with Ridley Scott, who had similar problems as Cameron did in making his movie.

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08/03/2013 ChrisJS1987
anyone know if he has done and interview like this for apollo 13?

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25/02/2013 Brano Horak
Genius of music.

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02/12/2012 Larry Lee Moniz
James Horner is a musical genuis. It is a shame they didn't realize that at the time. James Cameron sounds a bit like un-budging asshole.

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15/11/2012 Darth Bismarck
Easily done - for me, anyway. But to hit the underlying point you're skirting around, I will never consider saying that Horner has no talent. 'Aliens' proves he does.

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10/11/2012 RAIDERS58th
A challenge to all Hans Zimmer fans. Find a long flight of carpeted stairs. Set up audio recording gear around said. Set up an unstable tower of bricks at the top of the stairs. Topple said down those stairs and record the sound they make. Replay said at various speeds and put your hand on your heart and swear on your Mother's life that said doesn't sound astonishingly similar to a Zimmer score. I fucking dare you! I fucking double dare you!

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10/11/2012 RAIDERS58th
On the contrary Hanszimmerpianoguys; it's from having an appreciation of REAL music that one instinctively despises the loathsome, infected penis drippings secreted by Mr Zimmer that he likes to call music.

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10/11/2012 RAIDERS58th
Hans Zimmer is an abomination from hell. His "music" consists of throwing a bunch of bricks down a flight of stairs and recording the sounds they make. He'll then pass this recording off as a movie soundtrack by speeding it up or slowing down according to what he thinks the scene requires. Fuck Hans Zimmer! He's not fit to wipe my dog's ass let alone James Horner's!

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02/11/2012 cripplehawk
The most painful experience for Horner was scoring Terrance Malik's "The New World film"(It took place after this documentary). It proved to be a nightmare for Horner in the end. I believe Malik just threw out most of Horner's score and put in Mozart and Wagner's music in the end and used only about 10 minutes. If you have that CD there is a note from Horner that thanked some people supporting him

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23/10/2012 Shadowsnshades
Bravo James Horner

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18/09/2012 astrostar7
James Cameron is a real burden to deal with

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11/08/2012 CloudyMemory
Zimmer was barely scoring movies in 1986, he wasn't even in Hollywood yet. And I doubt that Zimmer could ever come up with a better score for Aliens, let alone in such a short time.

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08/08/2012 Mickey Evans
WOW! great interview i learned alot from this!

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19/07/2012 theebatman1119
5:25 Hans Zimmer can do better, go to him :P

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27/06/2012 Daniel Lee
Yes, it's a great cue, and yes it's become one of the most iconic, most used pieces of film music ever... but let's not forget that it's an almost exact knockoff of John Williams' cue from Star Wars, right before the Death Star explodes. Listen to the two back to back.

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25/06/2012 Dadko
Any exemple?

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24/06/2012 Catalina Paz Paris
Man, this guy is amazing. Basically, he composed some of the best music ever heard in an action film, and he did it overnight!

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17/06/2012 hatchbx
He "mellowed." Is that why he was good in the 80s and completely wack with Titanic and Avatar?

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16/06/2012 cactusjack20
your ugly

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15/06/2012 cactusjack20
whats the matter planetery, Can't handle the truth? Haha your gigantic responses to my timid comment makes you look desperate and pathetic. Your jealous of James Horner, and your not talented. Deal with it .

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09/06/2012 cactusjack20
yet he is a well known, successful multi-million dollar composer and you are...well, nothing. Makes perfect sense to me

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26/05/2012 Samples Spotlight
You know it is funny. I just worked on my first film score and went through the same thing. Unfortunately I was fired for not having music written for a picture I never received. I was glad to not have the stress. Horner's stress is so apparent in this interview. Thanks for posting.

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19/05/2012 TheNovelty8theory
Why has James Cameron become a kind of hate figure?! This guy is one of the greatest directors of all time and produced some of the greatest movies of all time. Aliens is a genius movie, the perfect sequel. So stop being such pathetic whinge bags!!

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04/05/2012 Haywerth Clarke
I agree with you 100%. I was disappointed in Cameron when I heard him say in the DVD commentary for "Aliens" that the reason there was so much acrimony between him and James Horner is partly because Horner didn't know how to work with directors, which is total bull. James Horner had already scored over two dozen films by the time he scored "Aliens," including Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan and the timeless "An American Tail", which came out the SAME FRIGGIN YEAR as "Aliens.”

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02/05/2012 KINDLE
This isn't the only man who "whines" about Cameron. In fact, over 50% of people he works with end up refusing to work for him again in their career because there's no courtesy, no time for fun or even to relax, Cameron gets frustrated with those who don't push themselves to stupid limits also & it becomes very tense. When it comes to music, you need to treat composers with respect & care; they're very sensitive people who get the music from within. You can't demand it from them. As these 2 did.

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26/04/2012 Austin M
must be easy to write a score so quick when you just borrow holst's mars

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18/04/2012 ericdriesmusic
What a whiner!

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17/04/2012 John Cole
I'd feel more pity for him if I didn't know he was a hack who copied other composer's work and yells at the directors behind their backs.

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04/04/2012 danielchess82
Remarcable man! A real genius with a big heart! He has all my respect!

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21/03/2012 McSuperfly101
I love the fact the the climatic piece is used twice... it's like you get an epic ending to the movie, you think it's all over and then you get an extra bonus ending.

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18/02/2012 RedJoe10
This is so excellent, one of the best 'making of' bits on the Alien Quadrilogy.

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13/02/2012 yukiyama87
I always wondered about the musical silence during the end fight,,

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08/10/2011 Quetzalgoatl
Aliens (this time its war ) best horror soundtrack ever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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18/08/2011 V-SQUAD
I´m relieved that he didn´t walk away. This soundtrack ROCKS!!!

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05/07/2011 Christoffer Boman
Respect this man !! He is the only composer, or one of few, who can make me cry and emotional even when i'm not watching, just by listening. Land Before Time, The Man Without a Face, Legends of the Fall, Braveheart, Titanic, etc.

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21/06/2011 Haywerth Clarke
@Cubes001 I know this comment is a couple months old but I couldn't agree more. In the ALIENS commentary, Cameron admits he really didn't know how to work with composers. But then he says that James Horner didn't exactly know how to work with directors either. I about choked when he said that. By the time James Horner got to ALIENS, he'd already scored BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS, 48 HOURS, and the timeless STAR TREK II: THE WRATH OF KHAN.

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09/04/2011 Cubes001
In that picture at 4:17 she looks like such a bia...who even knows who she is, Horner wrote freakin Braveheart.

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24/01/2011 junkyintel
Gale Ann Hurd... what a bitch... marketing with no talent for creativity.

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22/01/2011 gojira12345678910
This blows me away. This is my favorite film of all time, and if you only watch documents like this, you would assume that it was the biggest disaster in film history.

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07/08/2010 Peccath
Era una pesadilla :)

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04/05/2010 Swatyo
that bitch gale i would've killed her if she'd replaced horner

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27/02/2010 Superhero Reactors Vlog
I know how Jim & Jim feel. Like a train just pass by ya and you were resurrected years later to have a second chance. Look how they did with Titanic and Avatar. Best film makers ever.:)

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27/02/2010 Superhero Reactors Vlog
I know what you mean, feels though you're in it.:)

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01/12/2009 Terrence Aybar
Man, you can just feel the stress and frustration throughout this doc.

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14/11/2009 Anders Larsen
Great composer

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